Venom: Let There Be Carnage had a real surprise in store as well as a lot of sitcom humor. What impact could that have, and what about the rest of Sony’s Spider-Man universe? That’s what we discuss in this mini spoiler bible. v
Venom 2 It wasn’t me
Well, we didn’t see that coming. When the credits rolled for Venom: Let There Be Carnage , we could conclude that it was going to be an entertaining but ultimately soon forgotten sequel. Eddie and Venom are friends again, Carnage has been cut down, there are a few hints to the future… But then came the post-credits scene.
After all that hard work, the roguish duo have earned a tropical vacation, and we see them enjoying a local soap in a hotel room. Venom makes a confession there. In fact, thanks to the “symbiote hive mind”, he has a lot of knowledge that he does not share with Eddie in order not to explode his little human brain. Just when he wants to show Eddie what he means by that, the craziness breaks out.
A kind of luminous flux that reminded us very much of that of the Bifrost distorts the world, as well as the room where Eddie and Venom set their minds. We are in a different version of this room. No more soap opera on TV, but the post-credits scene from Spider-Man: Far From Home . Venom says he has nothing to do with this change, but still licks the screen where Spidey appears. Special. But what now?
Tom Hardy at the MCU?
The question everyone is asking right now: is there going to be another piece of the Spider-Verse coming to the MCU? Since time immemorial, Sony has owned the rights to all the characters we could see in the Tobey Maguire trilogy and the Andrew Garfield duology(?). In a deal we never expected, the company loaned the rights to Peter Parker and Spidey to Marvel Studios in 2015. As a result, Tom Holland has been officially with the Avengers since Captain America: Civil War . Venom isn’t part of that deal – so far, though. That’s why we never heard a word about Spider-Man from his greatest enemy in the comics.
That seems to be about to change now. This scene seems too important to be just an easter egg. But whether that also means that we will soon see Hardy in Spider-Man: No Way Home , that is still highly uncertain.
Tom and/or Topher?
Thanks to the first trailer and poster , we already know that Peter is going to ask Doctor Strange to undo his unmasking. The spell fails, and as a result, Doc Oc (Alfred Molina), The Goblin (Willem Dafoe), and Electro (Jamie Foxx) will appear in the third Tom Holland film. That heralds the beginning of the multiverse. We may also see Sandman (Thomas Haden Church) and The Lizard (Rhys Ifans), not to mention Maguire and Garfield.
And as much as many would like to forget that Raimi’s Spider-Man 3 exists, we got to see the very first version of Venom in it. The symbiote first bonds with Peter before switching to Eddie Brock, played by Topher Grace. There is no indication yet that the That 70s Show actor will also show up in No Way Home , but that is how things get very complicated. Venom would thus be the only villain to appear in two universes. Will we see two versions soon? The reference to the “hive mind” of symbiotes may well link this Venom to the old one.
Or neither of the two? Maybe this is just a harbinger of things to come later. After whatever happens in No Way Home , Tom Holland and Tom Hardy will run into each other. Venom 2 director Andy Serkis is leaning more towards that option. He said they just used that scene because it allows them to set the timing themselves. Tom Holland in Venom 3 also seems a bit more favorable to Sony than how it is happening now, with most of the publicity going to Marvel. And of course Carnage was already teasing something for the future…
Don’t you know that you’re Toxin
Tom Holland has already dropped that after the trilogy of the Home films, Peter Parker’s trajectory is over for the time being. Or that there are no concrete plans after that. No Way Home could drastically change the MCU, but perhaps it would indeed remain quiet around Peter for a while. Enough time then for a detour to San Francisco. There Eddie Brock may soon have to deal with an old acquaintance.
He may still remain under the radar for many, but actor Stephen Graham is truly a rising star. So rising that you don’t cast him for a small part. Throughout the movie, Eddie has Detective Mulligan after him. He turns out to be a victim of Shriek (Naomi Harris), as a result of which he partially lost his hearing. At Venom 2 ‘s final showdown , he’s nearing his end, but we see both he and Carnage survive. As Mulligan lays on the scaffolding, his eyes turn bright blue.
In the comics, Mulligan does indeed get his own symbiote and become Toxin . Besides Venom and Carnage, he is the most powerful symbiote in it. So powerful that the other two team up to defeat him, fearing that as a police officer he would use his powers for good. In this movie universe, Venom is more of an anti-hero than a villain. It is therefore rather conceivable that Mulligan becomes disillusioned with what he cannot do as a cop. We can already see that frustration when not he but Eddie gets confessions from Cletus. So expect a Mordo scenario in Venom 3 .
morbius Jared Leto in the MCU?
Then there’s the next Sony Spider-Man spin-off… Morbius . In it, exaggerated method actor Jared Leto plays the titular man with a rare blood disorder who invents a drug that turns out to be even worse. He becomes a living vampire, with super strength, echolocation, healing abilities… And oh yeah, a hunger for human blood. He first became a villain in the comics and eventually grew into an antihero.
And which antihero/villain do we spot in the first trailer? Michael Keaton as Adrian Toomes aka Vulture. He tells Dr. Morbius to speak up again. We don’t get explicit confirmation that he plays Toomes, but come on… This isn’t a coincidence anymore, is it? The chance is small that he will play a major role, since the film should have been released in 2020. Too far, perhaps, to have anything to do with No Way Home … Or has the film been reworked since then? Morbius will be released in January 2022, so anything is still possible. Are you still with us?
In any case, this is some kind of confirmation that Morbius has to do with the MCU. The trailer also shows graffiti of Spider-Man with ‘killer’ at… Does Peter do something in No Way Home that has consequences for Morbius? What that all means exactly is looking at coffee grounds. Michael Keaton certainly did not understand the explanation of the makers. 😂 And who can blame him in the meantime? Although we can make a small guess…
When [/spoilers] meet
The arrival of Morbius does open a new door in the MCU-related universe. A semi-vampire might have something in common with… a real vampire. Because who do we expect excitedly in the MCU in 2023? The comic uber vampire Blade. [accordions] [accordion title=”Last Time: Eternals Spoilers!Sure enough, Mahershala Ali, the new vampire hunter. In the comics, Dane Whitman becomes the Black Night, a tragic figure who increasingly loses his humanity.[/accordion] [/accordions] Will Blade become like Nick Fury for anti-heroes? Could Morbius be one of those in the future? Something to worry about (so… many… universes). Or are we more likely to go to another team-up?
Ever since Spider-Man rebooted, fans have been wondering when the Sinister Six will finally make an appearance. All this puzzling could be a harbinger that the bad guys from the comics are finally coming. Will that happen to the bad guys who presumably return from the previous Spidey film series in No Way Home ? Or with the one Peter has already encountered and will encounter again? Toomes, Scorpion (who we saw in the Homecoming post-credits scene ), Morbius, Venom of Toxin and Mysterio/Quentin Beck (Jake Gyllenhaal)? Or a mixture of all of the above?
Spider-Verse to the second?
While we’re discussing all the spin-offs, we’ll do Into the Spider-Verse for fun . This is the most far-fetched theory, but could we be seeing the end of Peter Parker and the beginning of Miles Morales in liveaction soon? The 2018 animated masterpiece already had Peter Parker, but with the multiverse, anything is possible. Spider-Man: Homecoming has already planted a seed thanks to the role of Donald Glover.
He played Aaron Davis, Miles’ uncle, whom he also named in the film. In Spider-Verse , Aaron Davis was the villainous The Prowler (voiced by Mahershala Ali). This brings us into dangerous Character Paradox territory, as Bryan Tyree Henry (Jefferson David in Spider-Verse) and Hailee Steinfeld (Gwen Stacy) are now also in the MCU as Phastos the Eternal and Kate Bishop, successor to Hawkeye, respectively.
They’ve held off for a long time, but Sony now seems to be really connecting their Spider-Man movies with the MCU. How far they will go, we will probably find out in part in December. A tip: go straight to the cinema before you will undoubtedly be spilt.